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the benghazi issue? what changed the last weekend toward obama? >> certainly i think sandy changed things. it let the president be president. >> it changed the subject from benghazi. >> i would also say this race was more of a referendum in some way on mitt romney than it was the president, and that's unusual -- >> does your side -- i know you're a true believer, and i respect that. do you think -- i mean it. do you think they didn't really believe he believed? >> no, i don't think that was the problem. i think the bigger problem was two things. they never personally connected with him. they never felt this attachment, and they didn't see him as -- >> personal. >> second of all, i think we failed middle income blue collar voters who feel we no longer understand their life, no longer are fighting daily for them, and they think what we're about are just the social issues and fighting for tax breaks for the wealthy. that's not what we're about, but we sure let that perception happen. >> my dad is a regular republican, not a right winger. he used to say the trouble with my party is they care
. this couldn't have been scripted bertd for her. leaving ahead of any benghazi fallout, everybody is begging her to stay. i wouldn't be surprised if there are floor plans for bubba's man cave. let's shed some light on this in the spin cycle. it seems like it was ordained by god. she's leaving just as this scandal is brewing. i mean, might not even touch her. i'm talking about benghazi, of course, even though it directly involves her department. she's on her way out. people are begging her to stay. already talking about when to see more of her. it really does look like everything is coming up roses for hillary. that said, i don't know that she's ever really faced the wrath of the gop machine in its fullest, when you think back to 2008. the gop machine was sort of split, split in its attention to obama and others as well as hillary. i don't know that she ever got its full attention. of course, back in her senate run, i don't know that anyone thinks that rick lazio was really the -- >> no. >> nothing against rick. he's a great guy. i don't know that she's been fully tested. then again, i don't
a quick question on susan rice. do you believe the benghazi incident disqualifies her to be secretary of state? >> it will prevent her being confirmed until the white house comes forward with the answerses to all the questions all of us have been asking. what happened on the 16th of september when she went on the talk shows and talked about blaming the attacks in benghazi on an anti-muslim trailer in the united states when, in fact, we've come to learn that intelligence people knew it was a terrorist raid and we had no explanation as to why we couldn't protect our ambassador and lost our first ambassador in the line of duty since 1979, if those questions aren't answered then there's not going to be a confirmation in my judgment. >> all right. i have to leave it there. georgia republican senator johnny isakson, thanks for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. >>> optimism over the fiscal cliff is fading in washington but not on wall street. they continue to believe a deal is coming. the market rundown is next. and from secretary of state to new york city mayor, michael bloomberg's crazy specula
in benghazi that took place september 11th and killed four americans, including ambassador chris stevens. according to the egyptian source the man is identified as being in his late 30s. he's known to egyptian intelligence officials for his connections in the past with extremist groups both in egypt and libya and his connections with groups in afghanistan and iraq. acht the country's revolution he managed to escape from a prison where he was being held. it was shortly afterwards he emerged on the scene for egyptian intelligence officials who say he began trading arms into libya, egypt and ultimately onto gaza. right now there's no indication what role he may have played precisely in the attack on the u.s. consulate. he's held in custody. there's conflicting reports as to when he was actually detained. some suggested he was arrested on friday morning. there are other reports suggesting he had been arrested several weeks ago. right now he remains in egyptian custody. he has not been charged with any precise accusations. he is, however, being questioned by egyptian officials as to what role
decline. it wasn't really true. that's why he was so obsessed with benghazi, because he had nothing else. and even benghazi, of course, was overblown. >> let's take a look at this. this is an ad by the superpac supporting president obama. it was singled out by political fact for being false. it was a devastating but powerful ad that left the impression that mitt romney and bain capital had responsibility for a woman's death. let's listen. >> when mitt romney and bain closed the plant, i lost my health care, and my family lost their health care. and a short time after that, my wife became ill. i don't know how long she was sick. and i think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew that we couldn't afford the insurance. and then one day she became ill, and i took her up to the jackson county hospital, and admitted her for pneumonia, and that's when they found the cancer. and by then it was stage 4. there was nothing they could do for her. and she passed away in 22 days. i do not think that mitt romney realizes what he has done to anyone. and i hurt more, i do not think that mitt romn
this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a pretty ugly i think there are problems with terms of tone and how aggress he have the republicans want to be seen as going after her especially because so many attacks are over this benghazi issue and over talking points, and -- >> she had nothing -- >> look. her critics make other arguments, and you can debate the substance of that, but many terms of just sort of this is a very narrow cast discussion right now over a tv appearance. >> over one tv appearance. diversity is always an issue in the obama cabinet. just like any other administration. >> that's right. >> interestingly enough, it's been 15 years since there has been a white man as secretary of state. 15 years since we've had th
. as you'll recall, chris, she wasn't able to testify on the incident in benghazi as she was initially scheduled to. she also, because of her health, wasn't able to attend the president's announcement of her replacement, senator john kerry. she has been out of the picture for quite some time. after the kerry announcement she released a statement, praising the choice, john kerry was the right decision. but still she has been in a state of recovery for quite some time. >> let me interrupt you for a second. we did get a statement now from phillip rains at state department, kristin. i want to read it for folks so that they know the absolute latest. sorry for the intrusion on your sunday night, but we want to update you on the secretary's health. following statement is on the record. in the course of a follow-up exam today, secretary clinton's doctors discovered a blood clot formed stemming from the concussion she sustained several weeks ago. she's being treated with anti-coagulants she's at new york presbyterian hospital to monitor the medication over the next 48 hours. her doctors will co
fainting due to dehydration. clinton had been scheduled to testify about benghazi this week, but deputies will testify in her place. enter john bolten, former u.n. ambassador under george w. bush. he's not convinced of clinton's illness. >> you know, every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase i'm about to use. when you don't want to go to a meeting or a conference or an event, you have a diplomatic illness. and this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> victoria nuland responded saying bolton doesn't know what he's talking about. in bolton's case that's all a reasonable, safe assumption. >>> up next, is the horror of newtown marking the beginning of the end of the nra's dominance over the issue of gun control in this country? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on wher
whether her illness was really suggesting she was trying to avoid facing direct questions on benghazi. what is your thought? >> that is what's wrong with washington. you know, people who invent conspiracies behind every cloud. these are the same people who said the moon landing was staged in a hollywood set. let this woman rest and get well and give her some space. stop creating a conspiracy behind every cloud. >> thank you so much democratic congressman steve israel of new york. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> it's already new year's in new zealand. the first major city in the world to welcome in 2013. in australia over a million people turned out to watch a spectacular display at sydney's harbor bridge. then in tokyo monks rang in the new year ringing a temple bell 108 times in keeping with their tradition. nbc's ron mott is in new york's times square where preparations are under way for tonight's big show. >> a good new year's eve to you, richard, here in times square. on 365 days of the year it is a pretty electric place with all of those lights. it will be especially so tonight.
committee for a very long time. he knows most of the world leaders. >> the susan rice/benghazi witch-hunt, what is your reaction to that? >> well, keep in mind john kerry is barack obama's first choice. susan rice wasn't a choice. she got tied up into the politics of benghazi. but this is who the president likes, believes in. kerry gave obama that great nominating speech slot in 2004. but kerry has been able to be bipartisan in the true sense. he has been able to cut deals and work with senators -- senator murkowski is a friend of his from alaska, for example. this is going to be one of the best appointments, selections that the president could have made. and most people on capitol hill feel the same. >> quickly, will he go through confirmation easily? >> he will go through. i think vicki kennedy will come in and be the senator for that interim period. it's 145 to 160 days until governor deval patrick is going to set that up. i think he is probably going to run for senate. >> interesting. great to have you with us, professor. thank you so much. >>> coming up, the owner of some big-na
of bipartisanship? was it the fact that your side couldn't push the benghazi issue that they were pushing for some weird reason before that? what changed the last week for obama? >> i think sandy changed it a little bit. they let the president be president. i think it helped. >> i would also say this race was more of a referendum in some way on mitt romney than it was the president and that's unusual. >> did your side -- i know you're a true believer and i respect that. i mean it. do you think they didn't really believe he believed? >> no, i don't think that was the problem. i think the bigger problem was two things. they never personally connected with him. they never felt this attachment and didn't see him as this person. that's his personality. secondly, i think we failed midd middle-income blue collar voters who feel we no longer understand their daily life and that we think it'sal about the social issues and fighting the tax breaks for the wealthy. >> i know. my dad's a regular republican, not a right winger. he e said the trouble with my party is they care about the big corporations too much
at eucerinus.com. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton expected to testify before congress about benghazi situation as early as this week, perhaps. back with me now, the brain trust. dave, matt, angela. thanks for sticking around. folks, what do you think will be the headline the day after secretary clinton testifies? angela, i'm going to start with you. if you wrote for a publication, what would the headline be? >> "hillary 2016." i think hillary is going to knock it out of the box this week with her testimony. she's going back to her old stomping grounds in capitol hill where she's got tons of allies and friends. regardless of the outcome, the reality of the situation is you can never know what actually happened until you collect all of the data and the facts. i think she's going to fiercely defend ambassador rice. i think she's also going to defend her own honor. definitely hillary 2016. >> you also have to wonder how aggressive they are even going to be with regards to questioning secretary clinton as well. >> correct. i totally agree with you. >> dave, what do you think? what's the h
.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi, libya, in which four americans died. >>> california governor jerry brown is being treated for early stage prostate cancer and is maintaining a full schedule while undergoing radiation. >>> in argentina, violent protesters as demonstrators threw rocks and other objects at police who responded with pepper spray. the protesters were angry because judges found 13 defendants not guilty in a human trafficking case. >>> and in ukraine, there were fights outside of parliament as activists and lawmakers attacked a fence around the building and then inside fist fights as law makers from two opposing parties started arguing. >>> all right. heading over to wall street where the dow opens the day at 13,245 after losing three points yesterday. the s&p 500 was up a fraction. the nasdaq fell eight. overseas, the nikkei climbed 161 points. but in hong kong, the hang seng dropped 57. >> it was aggressive action by the fed that offset the fiscal fears for now. investors welcomed news of the central bank's next round of monetary stimulus and interest rates will remain low unt
anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me want to examine the whole situation. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be confirmed by his colleagues. >> if the president wants an easy confirm nation hearing. >> massachusetts would have to hold a special election to fill his seat. scott brown lost his race to elizabeth warren. >> during his farewell speech yestarerday yesterday. >> victory and defeat is temporary. >> depending on what happens and where we go, all of us may meet again. >> after learning about ambassador rice's withdraw the party tweeted bring it on hash tag massachusetts senates. the democrats got cute when john kerry was running for senate. they created this thing where you have to have an erosion. and then 150 days or somewhere you have this election. and so, it looks like the democrats feel confident enough that they can hold on to the seat. >> oops. here comes scott brown again. i think this is so irritating. you have the republican members of the senate deciding who the next secretary of state is. rather
accused her of downplaying the september 11th attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. rice attributed the attacks to an angry mob. later, it was revealed that u.s. intelligence knew al qaeda was involved. rice said she was not given that information. some republicans said they would block her no, ma'am nation to become secretary of state. >> today i made the decision it was the best thing for our country, for the american people, that i not continue to be considered by the president. >> and rice's announcement makes massachusetts senator john kerry the likely front-runner to be the nation's top diplomat. >>> there's one week to go before congress is supposed to head home for the holidays. as of right now, there's no deal on that year-end fiscal cliff. tracie potts has the latest on this. after so-called frank talks during president obama and house speaker john boehner's second face-to-face in a week, people are hoping for good news there. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: wish we had some to deliver. from all accounts there is still a stalemate in washington over preventing these tax
questions about poor security during the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that killed more americans, including an ambassador. republican and democratic lawmakers clashed over whether a lack of funding or lack of leadership was the real problem. >>> last night on "rock center with brian williams," richard engel recounted the agonizing moments of being held capitalive in syria, including the moments he felt he'd never leave the country alive. >> you're blindfolded. you don't know what's going on. they take you outside forcefully. they line you up against a wall. you hear weapons loading and unloading. you hear plastic wrap being on a tarp set out in front of you. you think this is it. then they leave you there for 30 minutes. and just let the moment play out. and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 1
he had him on the ropes with the benghazi nonsense. the president just let him proceed. not only was that a great, brilliant move in that moment, but it also but it was also em blematic of how he just had to let mitt romney talk. and it was so objectionable to the american people that they definitely wanted to go in a different direction. >> so please proceed governor from the second presidential debate. >> you got it. >> well, i think that probably i would say the best move of the year i would have to say was the campaign ground game. i think you almost went there. you were half way down the is aisle, wu ybut you turned aroun. i think that they turned out a terrific ground game. i think if you rook look at the that the republican polls were right but they underestimated turnout, that was the ground game. it would be a much different award and a much different revvie, too. >> okay, up next, we have this dud's for you award for the worst political move of 2012. let me start with you, crystal? what was the worst move and who wins that award? >> well, it is kind of a group. but it g
on capitol hill a week from today on the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. clinton's first public testimony will address specific findings from an investigation into the september 11th incident. turning now overseas, new signs of desperation from the syrian government. for the first time in the two-year conflict, the assad regime is resorted to firing scud missiles to slow rebel forces. they close in on the capitol of damascus. officials say at least half dozen scud missiles packed with explosives were launched toward another syrian military base that was overtaken by the rebels. richard engel reporting from the region says two of the scuds landed in civilian neighborhoods. the news comes the same day more than 100 countries, including the united states, officially gave recognition to the syrian opposition forces. a day after north korea successfully launched a satellite into orbit, leaders in washington, japan, south korea are calling for immediate consequences, even the chinese are criticizing north korea's move. the three stage ballistic missile was carrying a satellite
attacks at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> and it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official in our administration, and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community. and look, as is often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal, that was her mission and she should not be criticized for doing exactly that. >> that, of course, comes in direct conflict with what general david petraeus, the director of the cia, told the committee in the senate where he said they knew immediately after the attack, the next day, that it was, in fact, an attack launched by al qaeda. now, speaking to reporters in ireland on one of her last trips as secretary of state, hillary laughed off questions about a potential presidential run in 2016, saying she's just too busy with her current job to think long term. >> i'm right now too f
largely avoided blame when it comes to benghazi. >> the next thing graham wants to talk about is why for seven hours on september 11 we can could not reinforce the event. we could not get into the details of how they died and why we left our consulate. >> what went wrong is decision makers did not make the right security call. it's gross negligence. >> the main speaker at the conference focused on the middle east as hosted by israeli american savonne. benjamin netanyahu to libney and american political rivals from senator john mccain to the president. praised clinton in a more than ten-minute video tribute. take a look at this. >> strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. >> i had the opportunity to work with her, to achieve ceasefire between israel and hamas. >> a strong and determined leader. >> politics as a mother, as a senator, the pinnacle up to now of her public service. >> one of the best secretary of states in american history and finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship and here is what i know. you haven't just within one of my closest partne
he had, he kept at it. then after he got out of that one he starts talking about benghazi and all this other stuff and lost that one argument. could he have won if he said, i'm the guy you need for this job. >> part, you need to go back and show why the policies were going to work. for example, if you take a look at 2003 bush tax cuts, by 2007, $800 billion more revenue had come in and the deficit was cut from $370 billion to $260 billion. did you hear him say that? that's what he needed to do, full-throated defense of republican policies that bush implemented but also he could have used to show why his policies would work. ultimately when you make it a referendum, you take the arguments off the table. >> do you buy that he should have defended all the republican policies of bush and his own? >> no, because those policies got us in trouble in 2008 in a great many ways. bush inherited a surplus and left with a massive deficit. didn't monitor the financial system and so on. the most important point is david's right about, which is there's no such thing as a presidential referendum e
to testify this week at a hearing about the benghazi attacks. but while suffering from a stomach virus, secretary clinton fainted, hit her head, and sustained a concussion. doctors told her to work from home this week. and her deputies will testify in her place. she's recuperating at her home. which means some righties smell a conspiracy. the new york post called the concussion a head fake. investors business daily says it's suspicious. no one's seen a medical report. the daily caller is picking up the drum beat with a headline where's hillary clinton's medical report? the conspiracies even made it on to tv. >> every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase i'm about to use. when you don't want to go to a meeting or concert or event, you have a diplomatic illness. and this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> they're accusing the secretary of state of playing hooky. they seem to be forgetting that the house could still ask clinton to testify in the future. in fact, they probably will. the right wing has gone from asking where's the birth c
to explain she didn't stop an attack on benghazi? >> they obviously decided it wasn't. i'm not sure why. >> on the politics, your former colleague wrote about this, if white house operatives really believe because hagel is a republican former senator and the gop already got its scalp, hawks would look the other way while the administration nominated a man likely to oppose against iran? those white house operatives should seek a different line of work. joy reid? >> the neocons won't stop. they've been wrong on every foreign policy question of my lifetime and still want to be in charge. >> to think of another liberal-type reformer you have to go to harold brown under carter and was a multilateralist, looked to use the pentagon as a place to negotiate arms reduction treaties. it was a different type of defense strategy, it was, by the way, controversial at the time. but the point to hagel, joy, is we're talking about someone who objectionable comments aside or not, someone who would be a change agent, and why won't the president fight for that? >> his only objectionable comment was his com
requirement that we had in benghazi, it has to come out of somewhere else. they have been good and trying to balance these things and ultimately it needs more resources and more support and able to handle what it calls expeditionary diplomacy, putting people like these in very, very difficult and dangerous situations. >> back to the question of what this does for secretary clinton's record. she supposed to identify and will not be able to due it an illness. this is what the ambassador had to say regarding secretary clinton. let's play it. >> when you don't want to go to a meeting or conference or event, you have a diplomatic illness. this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. i hope it's nothing serious, but this was revealed in a way that i think was not transparent. >> your reaction to that comment? >> it's outrageous. look, this happened on hillary clinton's watch and is going to be part of her record as secretary of state. i use an analogy that in some cases we won't know for a number of years the investments we made in countries like afghanistan, iraq or libya will pay off. not s
of life, which is terrible, about ambassadors that are working over in benghazi, and yet they are very, very quiet on this. >> and keep in mind, john mccain hired sarah palin to be vice president who coined the phrase, don't retreat, reload. >> that pretty much says it all. alex wagner, jonathan alter, thank you. >>> breaking news in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has a counteroffer. more after this. that was ups. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> government jobs taking away all guns. but that's not what i'm saying. i would just think that the founding fathers could have foreseen automatic weapons coming down the pike. i doubt it. i don't think they were thinking about that when they wrote the second amendment. people change, times change. nobody is
was announcing his nomination of kerry, republicans were on the hill attacking susan rice over ben benghazi this afternoon. >> the word she told on 16, september was completely out of line with reality on the ground. i just thought she was very eager to tell a story that did not make a lot of sense. i believe to suggest this thing was anything other than a terrorist attack fit a political narrative. >> i think senator kerry will be confirmed. i don't think there will be a huge dust up about this. there may be no dust up at all. people in the senate know him. republicans have said how much they respect him. but i want to say a word about susan rice. i know her and i've worked with her. she's a person on enormous talent and enormous integrity. you listen to the stuff we just heard. you're tempted to buy a line from history. senator, have you no sense of decency left? to suggest that this person who has given a lot to this country, somehow or other, was intentionally misleading americans is wrong. and i have some news for them if they don't like her. guess what, she's going to be around for th
it up? why'd he go after benghazi for two weeks? why'd he change from business experience? >> i have no idea. and, you know, really you almost saw what happened. it's like all of a sudden they woke up and said my god we can win this thing and didn't keep on the same path. everybody started kind of taking credit for that one good night instead of trying to recreate it night after night. >> let's cut ahead now. i love what you said about david axelrod and saying the guy wouldn't sell his religion. he couldn't sell the good work he did with relief society and looking out for members of his lds group. he couldn't do that without selling the philosophy of the religion? >> there were family and friends that wanted the campaign to emphasize things romney had done. that was who he really was, talk about that. and a at the convention there was an effort to have a moving video. the problem is this ran before the networks broadcast in primetime, the commercial networks. and then in primetime of course was clint eastwood. so the message that got out was not -- >> that was a hail mary, that clint
've been told they have been reviewing and updating the benghazi report. that report was supposed to come out, come to her this week. she was supposed to testify at two very high profile hearings, senate and house hearings on the benghazi investigation this coming thursday. now obviously that is not going to take placement whether they have that hearing and have someone substitute for her is another question. but she is going to remain home all week. and apparently fell and suffered a concussion as a result of her dehydration from this stomach virus. alex? >> andrea, so you described her, she has a work horse ethic. i'm sure saturday at the office is not unique to her. so you can confirm she was not at the office, she was at home when this accident happened? >> reporter: yes. that she has been home according to the state department, she's been home since she returned from that trip about a week ago. and then did not depart again, i think she returned friday night from overseas, was supposed to leave again on monday. we all saw her last at the kennedy -- before that trip at the kennedy hon
to secretary graham talking about the secretary and the benghazi hearing. >> when her hearing date comes she should testify as current secretary of state. she should be asked, as far as i can tell there was no interview of her in preparing this report. she needs to be asked about what she knew about the deteor eighting circumstances in benghazi. >> we should say she did not appear because she is recovering from that concussion she took as a result of a fall. but have we seen the full fallout from benghazi yet? >> not yet. there's still areas that i'm sure congress is going to want to explore. and i think that senator graham sing correct, that secretary clinton should be asked questions that she apparently was not asked during the course of the investigation. and be held accountable for them. i think that she will be. i think she will testify very forthrightly and one of those issues where, you know, you said at the top of the department and not everything comes to your attention. what the report cited was xroes inadequacies in terms of leadership and management skills at that bureau level an
of maine, who is known as a moderate and didn't seem to have a particular ax to grind on the whole benghazi thing going into that meeting. even, you know, a week ago mccain making some more conciliatory noises and now back where he started very opposed to this nomination saying kerry would be okay, but absolutely not susan rice. so, the administration will have a fight on their hands. >> but you would think that sheer optics of this would be enough to dissuade some members of the gop. you have a bunch of old white guys spending a couple days bashing, bashing a fairly popular black woman on national television for days. you would think all things considered at this point, lynn sweet, that they might have some second thoughts about that. >> well, maybe. what i hear from the administration, though, they are going to announce their national security picks as a package defense because we know leon panetta wants to leave and state maybe some changes over in the national security apparatus at the white house. so, maybe the white house is also thinking that if they have a bunch of potential conif c
with the benghazi situation. she read off of talking points. she's talented and capable woman whom i have known for many years. it's the president's call. he's entitled to have people in the positions that he chooses to have them. congress has to confirm these people. they have been warned that the susan rice confirmation could be difficult, but the president has a right to choose her if he wishes and with respect to john kerry, very capable man, according to press reports he's also being considered for the secretary of defense position. again, i don't know what happens there. he does a marvelous job in the united states congress as head of the foreign relations committee. we have all good options for john in my view. john kerry could serve ably in any number of positions. want to say about egypt, i don't know how much time you have, andrea, but some key egyptian national security officials are in washington now explaining egypt's recent actions. again that's a whole -- >> we were going to -- >> big pile of moves. i mean many good, some troubling, hopefully egypt and the people of egypt can fin
on benghazi and libya and the republican calls for more information. is there anything to be read from the fact that we have seen both president obama and secretary of state clinton go out of their way in a way to defend susan rice? is there anything we should tea leave read from that fact? >> well, chris, i think the president and secretary of state were right to defend per. these allegations are completely unfounded. they're unfair to her. she is a very talented, very effective, committed public servant. you know you know how those sunday show work when administration officials of either party go on, they're following talking points that the republican or democratic administration, whichever party's in power, has constructed and that's what susan did that morning. if any other administration official had been on the air that morning they would have said essentially more or less the same thing. i don't think the attacks are fair and she deserves a chance to be considered for any office that the president would like to appoint her to. you've seen a vigorous defense of her by the presid
consulate in benghazi and kill four brave americans. the message has to be sent that the united states is engaged. that the united states is ready to be involved, and the united states is ready to do whatever is necessary to prevent an act that could endanger or take the lives of literally thousands and thousands of innocent people. >> senator mccain obviously blending in every issue he can possibly put on the list there. but in reality i think that sound clip points to the difficulty the president will have on any decision that comes out of this. he's going to have opposition or second-guessing from john mccain and his supporters, but what are the options if, in fact, syria makes this move? >> i think that option number one is to let russia try to do something. it's really the only country left that has a significant amount of influence when it comes to assad and assad in terms of political maneuvering. so clinton met with the foreign minister of russia, and that's our greatest hope right now. is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, beca
strategy. in other words you get right to the edge of, you know, a benghazi wipeout or a potential real use of chemical weapons and then that drives the coalition response. i think it's highly doubtful that the qatar would take action but highly probable a calculation that involves turkey and thus nato forces were to take action if chemical weapons were to be used and i would think that despite what we may have heard about lines before, the fact is that the inside dimensions of syria are so complicated and nasty right now that you almost have to be at near use or at use of those weapons to get the kind of actions that we're talk iing about. and it really is horrible that you have to 0 wait to see the atrocity to drive this up to a higher level of action, but there are so many that are fearful of being involved in getting inside the mess that that's unfortunately where we're at. >> let's talk about what happened and also what happened yesterday but that was across the pond. secretary of state meeting with the russian counterpart, david and steve, this is both to you. david, let me start with
of that. she somehow has managed to come out of the benghazi thing unscathed. susan rice is taking most of the political heat for that. so if you look at how secretary clinton has navigated the last four years as secretary of state, it may not have been -- i don't think it's going to go down in history as, you know, one of the most influential secretary of states of ever, because i don't know what i would say right now about what huge things that have been accomplished. but she certainly has managed to come out of it, you know, without a lot of nicks at all. >> and in the poll you just cited, she gets the backing of more than 60% of republican women. if hillary clinton decides she wants to get in, she clears the field. you could be seeing other democratic potential candidates like governor brian schweitzer, governor martin o'malley trying to test the waters if she decides not to run or auditioning to be a vice presidential nominee. >> the reason it's easy for you to get democratic insiders to say she's absolutely running is because she's absolutely not. >> no doubt about it? >> no. no d
decline. that's why he was so upset with benghazi. >> let's look at this. this is an ad by the super pact supporting president obama for being false. it was a devastating but powerful ad that left the impression that mitt romney and bane capital had the responsibility for a woman's death. >> when milt romney and bane closed the plant, i lost my health care. a short time after that, my wife became ill. i don't know how long she was sick. and i think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew that we couldn't afford the insurance. and then one day, she became ill and then i took her up to the jackson county hospital and admitted her for pneumonia and that's when they found the cancer. by then, it was stage four. there was nothing they could do for her. and she passed away in 22 days. i do not think mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone. further more, i do not think mitt romney is concerned. >> over the top, john? >> i mean, it's a very tragic story. it's easy to feel for this guy. but mitt romney had nothing to do -- certainly had nothing to do with his wife getting cancer. cert
this political capital on what is going to be an interminutable benghazi investigation. john mccain signaling he wants to go on the foreign relations committee, he was going to lead the way. >> let's get this from chuck as well. do you think that clinton, secretary clinton or former president clinton, they have done this i know in private, said what they thought about this, they were for kerry. did they ever express that for lobby for kerry or against rice in this case do you know? >> it's my understanding they didn't. i think that hillary clinton understood where the president's loyalties lie, that he was leaning towards susan rice and she wasn't going to start a debate and try to -- and i think, in fact, those close to secretary clinton really tried to snuff out those stories that secretary clinton wanted kerry over rice, didn't want to have rice replace her. i think she stayed out of that a lot. so i don't think that they were going to step into that at all. i mean, i know there's always been speculation that susan rice and secretary clinton weren't close, and it all -- some of that all goes
hearings, all kinds of speeches, all kinds of accusations in the benghazi matter. let's see what the congress does now. and certainly, the president will provide the kind of leadership that is necessary. but it is time. after tucson, after arizona, a member of congress was shot in the head, and there was no response on the issue of gun safety and gun regulations by the united states congress. so we don't need anymore speeches. we need action. we've tried, many of us at the local level and certainly mayor bloomberg and mayor menino, their partnership, mayors against illegal guns. these guns, it's reported, were legally purchased, but obviously, improperly used. clearly, should have been locked up. the gun is gentleman is reported to have maybe have had some mental health challenges. so why would you leave that kind of weaponry, that kind of firepower available to someone who may be struggling from a mental health standpoint? so all of us have a responsibility here, everyone needs to get involved, the american people have had enough. their voices need to be heard and congress needs
choice but she with drew her name from consideration after pressure with what in benghazi. in making the announcement the president praised senator kerry's years of military and public service. >> having served with valor in vietnam, he understands that we have a responsibility to use american power wisely. especially our military power. and he knows from personal experience that when we send our troops into harm's way we must give them the same strategy, clear mission and the resources that they need to get the job done. >> senator kerry is the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he's expected to be easily confirmed. up next it's being called the lowest moment of john boehner's speakership. >> while we may have not been able to get the votes last night to avert 98.9% tax increase, i don't think -- they weren't taking it out on me. >> who were they taking it out on? what is the gop's next move. politico says the drama changes the dynamics in the fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman sandy levin will join me. and michael will be hosting "hardball." he'll talk about wh
to the situation in benghazi and the ambassador was killed and others of our diplomats. but it seems to be something that we can't quite find our way past, you know. >> all these years later. and willie, of course, we know what ended the malaise of the carter years. >> 2004. red sox winning the world series? >> i was going to say two things. >> permanent state of decline. >> one, the hockey win. and two, game seven of the american league championship series in 2004. >> we're still hanging on to that, aren't we? >> that's all we've got right now. >> you're not going to mention the reagan tax cuts? >> i'd rather go to the bloody sock. >> the bloody sock. >> 2004, the damon grand slam. we take what we can get. >> never let it go. never let it go. >> they stole second base, barnicle. it's still the barnicle screen saver all these years later. history. >> what a great play. i'm right there with you. >> i'm the yankee fan here. >> i could tell there was something off about you. >> our thanks to ben affleck for coming by. >>> coming up next, though, the author of the best-selling book "runn
, in january with her response to that report on benghazi. the report has now been completed and given to her today. her top deputies are going to be testifying about it on thursday. we'll be right back. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. >>> whatever portion of sadness that we can share with you to ease this heavy load, we will gladly bear it. >> this is the fourth time president obama has had to try to console a grieving community in the midst of the heart-wrenching pain and there was no follow-up from the white house or congress. well, will this time be different? joining me is nbc news historian. michael, i'm recalling what joe califano wrote about the former top
will the etch-a-sketch come out? >> i i think it might be connected to this benghazi stuff. you started to hear some snide voices -- >> they nailed susan rice. they nailed the -- they were going after everybody but the secretary. >> but now when she had this concussion i heard some snide voices on the right about is this really a concussion -- >> you mean john bolton. >> i feel if she ends up testifying next month maybe that's the pivot point. if not then, it's going to be soon. i think it's a question of you have one major political party that devotes itself to tearing somebody down. doesn't mean she can't win in 2016. the reason she's at 70% is because a lot of republicans have forgotten they're not supposed to like the clintons. they will get that message in the next year or two. >> my respect for this senator went through the roof when she ran for the senate in upstate new york, rana, because she could have taken a lot of hell for people who are not rooting for her if she had lost that race. she didn't need to put everything on the table in new york state and she did it, which is the test o
to be named as swu state or even potential for swuf state and used that against her on this benghazi piece. they actually had a masterful strategy. it was disgust and depickable, but it actually was pretty well played out. >> the other name is chuck haggle for defense. i think name twoing white men in the same week when you just saw an african-american woman who is well qualified, overly qualified, get treated that way, and the new cabinet that looks like -- probably not a smart strategic decision. it may be a while before we get those names kind of facilitied out a little bit. >> i think the strafing of susan rice was despicable, but i do think the nomination of any secretary of state or any cabinet appointment is an opportunity to probe what this administration's foreign policies are. i would like to hear barbara boxer, tom udall raise questions about what are the president's powers in the "war on terror?" do you believe climate change is a clear and present danger. what are you going to do about a global check recovery? what are you going to do about the hyper militaryization of our gov
on what went wrong in benghazi. that's one big thing. she is -- she had a concussion, we are told. she fainted after being dehydrated from a result of that stomach flu we were told about last monday when unexpectedly secretary clinton postponed a trip to places in the region for suggestions on the syrian opposition. in her place, veteran diplomat deputy secretary william burns went in hjertstedt. she's just come back from a rip during which she and head of policy planning and other top officials all got sick. so that was hornlgly postponed from monday to tuesday. then clear she was not going to be well enough in turn they -- the trip would be taken instead by her deputy. it is not clear when she actually fell and how long she has been suffering from the concussion. it is very, very difficult to get information on her actual health because they are being very, very privilege at about it. >> butter with to understand that she's at home recovering right now. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. if there is an update do come back. >>> up next, we will bring you more on the latest in the inv
'm speaking about is not good news because it deals with the tragic events that occurred in benghazi, libya, on september 11th when -- >> we are watching senator joe lieberman of that's joe lieberman talking about the fiscal cliff issue. let's go to luke russert, who is in washington following all of this as it somewhat progresses, or not. what is the latest that you're hearing? >> well, if i was not mistaken, harry reid said they would meet tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m., which leads me to believe that doing anything tonight is probably not a possibility. obviously we'll have to check that. but talking to folks around the building, there are a few things that have come up. i spoke to senator conrad of north dakota. he was very adamant saying the republicans wanted to much in regard to the estate tax. democrats want to extend that, up to 35% of an estate. the most interesting thing i found out, i talked to one high ranks republican member and they said we're preparing our members that we're going to lose this fight on revenue. the president is going to get tax cuts for those making $250,000
in benghazi. >> our understanding evolved over time and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. that was her mission, and she should not be criticized for doing exactly that. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts
on the attack on the american consulate in benghazi. but the results of an independent review about what happened that day are expected to be presented to the state department today, according to one report. >>> the electoral college will officially cast its ballots today. it still won't make president obama's victory official, though. congress has to certify the count on january 6th. >>> we will have much more from newtown in our next half hour as well as news from washington, including some movement potentially on the fiscal cliff negotiations. could there be light at the end of the tunnel? i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] the b
after a virus and the concussion and as you know was not at the benghazi hearings yesterday. we reported last thursday when susan rice withdrew that kerri was the choice. the question was timing. they didn't want to go too long, but of course there is a funeral today which kerry and the president will both be attending for senator daniel inouye. that was something else that delayed the timing. it was originally supposed to be this morning that john kerry would be nominated and that funeral won't be over until 10:00, rather about noon at the national cathedral. after that back at the white house there will be an announcement. it is not going to be what was originally contemplated, the entire national security team, cia, defense, a bit of controversy over chuck hagel. the president has been strongly considering chuck hagel for defense secretary and still is we are told. he has not backed off of that. there is fierce opposition building up, the same lobbying campaign that frankly torpedoed susan rice, and there is a lot of thought in democratic circles outside the white house, particularly,
service. >> do you think there's anything about benghazi that would at all taint her? >> no, i don't. not a thing. no. i mean the benghazi thing, it was a mistake, a terrible thing. we don't have actually the whole story out because the other half of the story is what the cia was doing at the annex. and that part hasn't actually been released. this was an internal look at the state department. and as any good group of people do, look tough at yourself first before you look at the interconnections with the other agencies. someone else has to look at those interconnections because this panel is a panel that secretary clinton actually appointed, former joint chiefs of staff mike mullen, tom pickering, other people like this were on this panel. they looked intensively at the department. and of course you find things wrong when you look at that, and -- but the state department has been under tremendous budgetary pressure for years. and now the challenge -- and one challenge that secretary kerry is going to have is how do you measure the effectiveness of diplomacy versus the risk to your
on who is responsible for the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the fbi repeatedly sent investigators to the scene. he could not elaborate. he vowed to follow recommendations from a review of the attack that killed four americans. >>> also in an interview, president obama discussed who he thinks is to blame for last minute negotiations ahead of the looming fiscal cliff. >> so far, at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff done. not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cocooperate, i think it's bn hard for speaker boehner and leader mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest americans should go up. we have put forward not only a sensible deal, but one that has the support of the majority of the american people, including close to half of republicans. >> let's get to the strategy talk. a pleasure to welcome these two gentlemen. joe sestak and former republican congressman and chairman tom davis, thank you both for being here. >> i was talking to you all during the commercial break. you said if it was up to you two, what would you do.
on the attacks of benghazi. the attacks came even though she was never nominated. with rice out, kerry is in. as yet, president obama has made no nomination for secretary of defense to replace the pentagon chief, leon panetta. the short list is very short indeed, chuck hagel. the senator from nebraska. he's the front-runner to succeed panetta. at least conservatives are treating him that way and using the tactics they used against susan rice and on one detail, israel. he once warned of the intimidating influence of the jewish lobby and said this in a 2006 interview while in office. >> i'm a united states senator, not an israeli senator. i'm a united states senator. i support israel, but my first interest is i take an oath to the united states, not to a president, not a a party not to israel. >> i'm confused about what is controversial about that. hagel is criticized for a remark he made about an ambassador candidate he made in 1998 when he said james hormel was openly gay. hormel said he accepted the apology. chuck hagel hasn't been selected yet. given what happened to ambassador rice, the q
in benghazi and if so why? >> they did overshadow it and it continues. we had a hearing this week in foreign affairs. my republican colleagues want to continue to focus on it in a way that i think is not constructive at all. the report came out of the state department. the state department accepted responsibility and said that they should have done more. at the same time my republican colleagues also want to cut the very funding that is needed to protect the embassies around the country. so i think it is disingenuous and all about attacking president obama and the way that they torpedos susan rice. i think directing their attacks at her was inappropriate and they are still talking about it. >> democratic congress woman karen bass of california thank you very much and hop haappy holidays. >>> we will hear. a second look at the first lady and the next act for chelsea clinton. you are watching msnbc. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back i
in benghazi. take a listen. >> susan rice has done a great job as our u.n. ambassador. she has been a stalwart colleague in a lot of the tough decisions that we've had to make. and certainly with respect to defending our national interests and national security at the united nations. >> so clinton is also going to testify on benghazi next week. what are the politics of all of this for secretary clinton? and are there risks for her here? >> i don't think there are necessarily risks for her here as long as she stays out of the whole fray of susan rice and congressional republicans. there's an awful lot going on on that score, but i tnk hillary clinton may be able to keep herself above all that. by the way, we keep expecting the white house for this rice situation to be resolved. we fully expect president clinton to make -- excuse me, president obama to make his announcement about his national security team any day now. >> what do you hear with regards to that, david? are you hearing that susan race is going -- susan rice is going to get the nod or that the waters are shark infested and -- >> com
. she doesn't even -- she managed to dodge the whole situation on benghazi pretty well for herself. you know, the tougher questions are being faced by her old foe, the president right now, who's in this incredibly difficult position. and losing stwo nominees is not a small thing. it does impact the rest of the budget debate, too. >> and what newt gingrich is also saying is that she would be very difficult to beat. that's what you hear around washington is that republicans who used to love the idea of having hillary clinton out there as the latest pinata, they're very worried that that's going to mean three democratic wins in a row. richard's point about how she's -- how the record that she has as secretary of state, they backed off her. secretary clinton's people point out that her polls are as high as they've ever been, despite this publicity. there's been no decline in her standing. so republicans who are salivating at the idea of having her for fund-raising and having her because she's great copy, but they also realize that ee electree electric torally, she's a huge threat. >> mike a
. there's no question that benghazi continues to be litigated. even on the democratic side, there is some division on this. i've talked to democratic senators who have questioned whether she has the standing, the stature, to be secretary of state. so obviously there's some division about how people view susan rice. but here's the bottom line. she's very close to the president of the united states. she is a key voice in his national security team. that's what could ultimately win the day. john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman cleaver, your thoughts on susan rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable o
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